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Rich Man, Poor Woman

Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:19 PM EST
business, wealthy, arrogance, threatening, jerk, rudeness, bad-economy, disregard-for-rules, pompous-ass
By Holly-348328
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Let me start off by saying there are two kinds of crap in this world; the kind you have to deal with and the kind you don't. This article addresses the latter.

I work for a plumbing wholesaler and we are not open to the public. Our client base is licensed kitchen and bath designers and master plumbers. We have a few builders, but generally we're trade only. However, the manufacturers we carry put down our name and number as a contact for where to buy their products. I spend a good part of my day screening out the internet referrals from homeowners who are clients of our clients. In other words, no one who comes in our showroom is going to write my company a check for our services. We are a free service to our clients, which is a $125 per hour value. Therefore we operate by appointment only.

This gentleman called around 10 AM informing me he is from Breckenridge (at least 1 1/2 hours away) and is leaving his home in fifteen minutes to see our showroom. Only the pretty well-off can afford Breckenridge. I politely explained that we are by appointment only and all our appointment times have been booked for today. I let him know we could see him on Monday afternoon.

The man responded with a derisive laugh and told me he was going to do me a favor. I asked him how this was so. He said that he is going to come to the showroom and spend money and that would prevent my paycheck from bouncing, in a very arrogant tone. I merely said "OK" very slowly as I have never had anyone speak to me that way before. He responded with "Well, I just don't like doing business with companies who act like they are doing me a favor by letting me shop there." I responded with "Well, I don't like doing business with people who are rude and arrogant" and I hung up on him.

Just so you can follow our line of reasoning, we are doing these homeowners and our clients a favor by letting them use our showroom. Again, most showrooms charge $125 per hour for consultations. We are giving this away for free to our clients and the homeowners. I have no idea if this man was an internet referral or a homeowner of our best client with 10 bathrooms. It doesn't matter. There is no excuse for disrespecting a business' rules and being rude and condescending just because you're wealthy. My company has done several Broncos' homes, our Senator's home, homes for the Coors family, etc. All were asked to abide by our policy and no one was treated any different than any other person.

After I did the deed, I felt kind of bad. I went over what I did with my boss, and her attitude is that if people are going to act like that, we don't want them in here anyway. My paycheck and our company's financial health was none of this man's business and very improper for him to try to threaten me with that and use it as leverage to get his way.

The bottom line is, that even though the economy is bad, that doesn't give anyone an excuse to heap abuse upon a company's representatives. That's why this phone call became a pleasure; it felt pretty good to tell someone that despite their perceived wealth and importance, you are not any more special than the people we already have booked for appointments.

This article is for all the hardworking people who take abuse on the phone and in person every day, and for all the wealthy people who think that threatening someone will get them special treatment. Very often, it has the opposite effect and there are people like me out there who don't care how much money you have. If your behavior is appalling, you can just keep on calling. Someone else, that is.

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Holly-348328

My boss was pretty horrified when I told her about the conversation. Not at my actions, but at the caller's. It was nice to know that I have that kind of support and validation. I'm tired of the economy being a scapegoat for bad behavior.

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST
JustDucki

Good for you, Holly!

I crossed paths with a few customers like that working at the cabinet shop. I couldn't always speak my mind but dang if I couldn't drag out getting their counter tops ready for install. I wonder if they enjoyed the extra days of fetching water from the bathroom sink and dishes piling up in their bathtubs while I took my sweet time...?

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 6:39 PM EST
Holly-348328

There are always sink templates that need to be ordered, right? Thanks for the support, Ducki. I never like being rude, but I do enjoy not letting rude people get what they want. Gotta take it where you can find it! Have a great weekend!

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST
redsfan

I had to deal with phone conversations like that before I retired, although in my case, I worked for a State Agency and had to deal with people who thought because they "knew somebody" high up in government they could get "special treatment" which usually meant breaking the law. My bosses learned early on that I had adverse reactions to that kind of arrogant, rude constituent. I wasn't a first line direct contact for these people, but I supervised an area that had to deal with them sometimes, so when my employees started receiving abuse, I had them transfer the calls to me.

What made me feel good was when the Board and Executive Director of my agency supported me...which they always did when I pulled out the rule and law books and showed them that if it ever got out that the rules were circumvented for certain people, well...heads would roll. They always agreed with me after that.

I've got to admit...I left a job in an agency under a certain Republican Department Secretary who later became a member of Congress because she and her staff constantly and illegally played politics. I wrote a couple of seriously dangerous CYA memos and they started kissing my a**, but I got out fast...wasn't going to participate in that kind of shenanigans.

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 12:05 AM EST
Holly-348328

It is such a great thing to have a supportive employer. That was nice of you to take some of the rough calls for your stafff.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST
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Holly-348328

My husband works for our parent company as the sales manager, so I told him what I did as well just in case someone got a phone call about it. Six hours later, no phone calls and my husband supported me on it too. Not because we're married, but because our company's philosophy is that no one deserves to listen to that kind of stuff.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST
rottlady

I'm glad to read your boss is backing you up, no one deserves to be abused by customers!

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 6:39 PM EST
Holly-348328

Thanks, rottlady! The message to my husband read "I might get fired for this but.." blah blah blah. He made me so mad I didn't care! Thanks for the support!

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST
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River-239955

Yay !!!! GO HOLLY !!!!!

Those types of punks are everywhere. You did good. :)

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:08 PM EST
Holly-348328

Thanks, River! I kind of feel like the nerd who punches out the football player in the movies!

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST
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neenie1991

What a NDBF! Great job! The reason I couldn't work in customer service ( this is where the bipolar kicked in) is because I couldn't be as professional and kind as you were. You were perfectly right to do what you did. Kudos!

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 10:21 PM EST
Holly-348328

I can't understand why some people think rudeness and a cocky attitude magically make others want to do things for them. I just wish I had been quick enough to insult him with some class, i. e. "I'm sorry sir, but the economy will never be bad enough that my paycheck depends on taking abuse from people such as yourself." Next time, I guess!

  • 5 votes
#5.1 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:35 PM EST
neenie1991

I do want to correct one thing, I shouldn't have said "this is where the bipolar kicked in", that sounds like an excuse. I have a smart mouth and don't suffer fools. That has no connection with my bipolar. I don't want to give the impression that my mental illness is a crutch for bad behavior.

"I'm sorry sir, but the economy will never be bad enough that my paycheck depends on taking abuse from people such as yourself."

Oh, don't you hate it when you come up with the perfect come back after the fact? Grrr.

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 11:06 AM EST
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US Citizen-658112

Businesses are there to do business...not supply employee "targets" for people who feel the need to abuse other human beings.

I've had to deal with a few people like this and also "stood them down". I was not abusive to them, but either hung up or very clearly let them know I was not there to be abused and then hung up. One guy called one of my bosses...who later told me he had told that "customer" that in his opinion I had been "too polite" and then outright told the guy to "never call again".

While I find the "false" customer service ploys to be nauseating and irritating, the jerks are by far the worst no matter if they are customers or workers.

The job postings should all read "Jerks need not apply". And all the entrance doors should all have signs that say "No jerks allowed, all those who are found inside will be ejected", and finally, the "waiting music" should have a little ditty - perhaps sung? - that "if you're a jerk, hang up now, as that's what's going to end up happening anyway". Finally, the "legal agreements" should be modified to include this "If you have been found by us to be either a jerk, a jackass, a pain-in-the-ass, or otherwise to be an irritating human being, we reserve the right to retroactively cancel your warranty, guarantee, and anything else we ever told you we would do, in an effort to cause to you consider never contacting us ever again, and you agree by checking the box to allow us to do this without any legal liability at all".

I've long hated retail sales. It should be recognized for what it is - mind combat! And the appropriate ROE (rules of engagement) applied.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 3:07 AM EST
Holly-348328

Maybe stores could adopt a stick figure bent over with kind of a reddish bottom with little lines sticking out to indicate paint, with the red circle and slash. That would encourage me to shop there!

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:38 PM EST
neenie1991

I am very mindful of the fact that when I have a problem, complaint or return that it is not the fault of the person I am talking to and they are a human being. If they are unable to help me with my issue I just go up the chain until someone can settle it to my satisfaction. Abusing people is not the way to get things done.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 11:09 AM EST
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RON-1137649

No,No,No none of you understand .The person you've described is but one of millions out there.
The" it is all about me people" .They have to be at the first in line,not second .First always first
They've a super charged narcissistic personality.You must understand ,they are required by their rules of life.To annoy at least one ,if not millions of people each and every day .Sorry ,I wasn't going to talk about the Commander In Chief today .
Holly it was just your turn ,that day,but you did well.
I'm glad I have an understanding about this .For I'm a truck driver and you don't want me thinking I must be at the front of the line .You don't want me pushing you around .
I hope I gave you something to think about.
I'm beginning to worry about me ,look at the number of times I referred to "I"

RON

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 5:50 PM EST
Holly-348328

Thanks, Ron. As a truck driver, I'm sure you see more than your fair share of rudeness on the road!

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Sat Dec 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST
RON-1137649

I've been doing me own personal study of human behavior for over thirty years .Mind you I'm an uneducated man in this area.I'll spare you my theory of what motivates man kind ,from first breath to last.

Food for thought !Each of us must have a balance of a narcissistic personalty .If not , we become the door mat this person was trying to make of you .With less and less parental guidance in our society there will be more people that think they can run over everybody or they become door mats .
In my youth ,I was a door mat .But as I got older, I figured out I had a voice .
May my words give you understanding of people around you .

One more thing .It's not important ,but my son also works at a wholesale pluming supply store .Knowing him, I'm sure he would speak out just as you did .

Thank You
RON

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:59 PM EST
Holly-348328

Thanks, Ron!

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 6:48 PM EST
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LifeTravler

Bless your heart! I used to work in a large call center for a well known cell phone company. I worked with the business clients.

Now you know why I no longer work there. Nuff said. LOL

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:48 AM EST
Holly-348328

Usually I can handle myself much better than that because a lot of people who call here are rude, but this was just over the top! There's no reason to start off a phone call with that kind of attitude. I'm here to help, not to take out your holiday stress on!

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:54 AM EST
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lilgremlin

Thank you for the lovely reading Holly! I've met/spoke with people like that working where I do now. They're not in the least bit pleasant and its even worse when you're actually doing business with the jerkoff in question.

A favorite incident of mine was the day I was running the phones the flaf-store. Had a customer with a serious attitude calling about his merchandise. (This guy was bad enough that the owner had to be the one to complete the sale.) Asked me to find the manager who was personally seeing to the completion and delivery. The manager was already on his way to the guy's house and told me he'd be there in 10 minutes. I relayed the 10 minute ETA to the customer who then asked me "Oh yeah? Can I set my watch by that?" At 4:30 in the afternoon who the heck knows so I responded with "Well I don't know, how's the traffic out by your house today?" He said he'd go turn on his yard light and that was the last of it.

Back in college I worked full-on retail in a specialty field. I was convinced that there were people who didn't consume food for sustenance. Rather they fed off the misery that they caused other people. There's just no pleasing some people. To say the least I am ALWAYS nice to whoever is helping me when I go shopping. I give myself bonus points if they look like they're having a crappy day and I can make them laugh.

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:18 PM EST
Holly-348328

Being on the receiving end does make you respect those who are in a position of providing customer service. Bless you for taking the time with the pushy customer. Sometimes you just want to say, "Come on, let's be logical here. How can I possibly guarantee what precise time someone will be at your home?" Because if you tell him 4:32, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be on the phone at 4:33!

You're welcome for the read. I'm glad you enjoyed it! I tip well and when I am in the position of customer I am more than happy to bear the cross there too. The other day I was at the grocery store with a full cart standing in line at the regular checkout. Some jerk with a half-full cart went up to the Express Lane. He easily had 30 items. The cashier kind of looked at him funny and turned to look at the sign that says "14 items or less". He got very pissy and demanded she wait on him because no one else was in line. I used to work at the same store so I knew the cashier and she and I exchanged looks. She started to ring him up because the store's policy is to never say 'no' to a customer. Sure enough, people started piling up behind him with one gallon of milk or one head of lettuce. I turned to the jerk and said, "See, that's why they have rules here." He turned bright red and the cashier was discreetly laughing!

  • 5 votes
#9.1 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:12 PM EST
lilgremlin

Way to stick up for the cashier! Don't you just hate when people behave like that? Also way to make him blush!

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST
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DaVoH

I work for a plumbing company also, and I have to deal with plumbers and building contractors. Some of them can be the biggest buttholes ever. Not all of them though, some are extremely cool and easy going. But for the most part, we sell service and people expect it when they pay for it. But you are right, Holly, I don't feel that that gives them a right to be jerks. I get paid by the hour, and what they don't know is that I don't care if they go spend their money somewhere else. I actually recommend it to most of the people that come in here.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:09 PM EST
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